Building INE's RSv5 topology with physical routers

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this thread for discussion on building INE's CCIE RSv5 topology using the physical routers.

Details
of INE's RSv5 topology can be found here.

Detials on branch router platforms can be found here.

This thread is a continuation of the
original RSv5 build thread that can be found here.

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  • Brian

    Just wanted to say thank you for your tip this morning on using the configure replace command.    I thought would post it here incase somebody else found it usefull as well.  I will be loading up my routers with the base configs to help save time without the need to reboot.

    BTW - I really enjoyed the session this morning, thank you.

    Replace config with one from flash:



    R1#dir flash:

    Directory of usbflash0:/


        1  -rw-    66379368  May 20 2014 04:56:26 +00:00  c1900-universalk9-mz.SPA.153-2.T3.bin

        2  -rw-        1052  May 24 2014 19:36:26 +00:00  blank.txt

        3  -rw-        2390  May 24 2014 19:37:38 +00:00  basic.ip.addressing.txt





    R1#configure replace flash:blank.txt

    This will apply all necessary additions and deletions

    to replace the current running configuration with the

    contents of the specified configuration file, which is

    assumed to be a complete configuration, not a partial

    configuration. Enter Y if you are sure you want to proceed. ? [no]: y


    Rollback:Acquired Configuration lock.

    %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Tunnel0, changed state to down

    Total number of passes: 1

    Rollback Done


    Router#

    %CRYPTO-6-ISAKMP_ON_OFF: ISAKMP is OFF

    %CRYPTO-6-ISAKMP_ON_OFF: ISAKMP is ON

    %CRYPTO-6-ISAKMP_ON_OFF: ISAKMP is OFF

    *May 24 19:39:09.571: %LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface Loopback0, changed state to administratively down

    *May 24 19:39:09.647: %LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface GigabitEthernet0/1, changed state to administratively down

    *May 24 19:39:10.583: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Loopback0, changed state to down

    *May 24 19:39:10.647: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface GigabitEthernet0/1, changed state to down



  • Hi Brian,

    I am in the process of putting together a v5 Lab through my company. 

    What are the actual router quantity requirements for the different workbooks (Tech Labs, Foundation, Troubleshooting and Full Scale)? I believe to have read somwhere on the forums here (cannot find the post now= that for the advanced tech workbook 10 would be enough to do all exercises?!

    Can you give specific numbers for the different workbbooks?

    Best regards,

    timmy

  • If you're going R&S v5, you'll find yourself really only working with the v5 workbook like I did.

    10 routers will be enough for v5 workbook per Brian as well as what I've come across so far in the workbook myself.  

  • Can anyone plz suggest the topology which should be followed for R&S V5.
     
    Regards
    Mohit


    On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:33 PM, cstambaugh <[email protected]> wrote:

    If you're going R&S v5, you'll find yourself really only working with the v5 workbook like I did.

    10 routers will be enough for v5 workbook per Brian as well as what I've come across so far in the workbook myself.  




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  • Thanks for the input. The reasom I am asking specifically is because  there is mention of 20 routers in the v5 Workbook overview, so I wanted to make sure (avoid surprisees).

  • Hi there,

    I am building my lab with 10 physical routers and 4 switches. I was going through diagram and got little bit confused about interfaces in Vlan 5, 7,8,9 & 10. I mean where is other end of these logical link? or we just use these for advertising subnets. Could somebody help me understand.

     

    Thanks

    Meerz

     

  • 20 will be used for larger topologies in the troubleshooting and full scale labs. 

    Brian McGahan, 4 x CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP/SC/DC), CCDE #2013::13
    [email protected]
     
    Internetwork Expert, Inc.
    http://www.INE.com

    On Jun 2, 2014, at 2:51 PM, "timmy" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Thanks for the input. The reasom I am asking specifically is because  there is mention of 20 routers in the v5 Workbook oveerview.




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  • Brian, you mention licensing as a con when going for a physical lab. In my opinion, nothing essential has changed.

    Legal point of view: The Advanced Enterprise and IP Services feature sets used for v4 need to be licensed. When buying used equipment, licenses don't transfer. The situation remains the same for v5 regarding the technology packs Data & Security for the 1900/2900 and IPservices for the 3560X/3750X..

    Pragmatic point of view: Images with the right feature sets could be copied to the box and used without restriction. Now, the technology packs can be activated on the universal image, and Right-To-Use kicks in 60 days later. I don't know Cisco's stance on licensing devices that will never see production, but I assume there is no official exemption for lab gear and no enforcement either.

  • For what it's worth, we went for 3560X/3750X switches in our build to
    cover 100% of the scope. The 3850 is not able to provide that, as some basic
    features lilke PVLANs, VRRP and Q-in-Q are still not supported.

  • is fine to keep the power button of the routers on, and turn them on/off from the power source ?

  • Yes, that will be fine.

    Mind you, powering-on your devices always puts a strain on them, these boxes are built to run constantly. But they should survive the time you need them in the lab. :-)

  • Yes, there is no way to “gracefully” power the boxes down, you just power them down.  You can also get a remote power controller so you can turn them on/off from the web interface of the controller through the network.

     

    Search “apc ap9211” or “baytech rpc” or “synaccess netbooter”.  Just make sure that it matches the correct power cables and power input that you have, e.g. power in the US is different than in EU, etc.

     

    Brian McGahan, 4 x CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP/SC/DC), CCDE #2013::13

    [email protected]

     

    Internetwork Expert, Inc.

    http://www.INE.com

     

    From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of oudmaster
    Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 5:44 AM
    To: Brian McGahan
    Subject: Re: [hardware] Building INE's RSv5 topology with physical routers

     

    is fine to keep the power button of the routers on, and turn them on/off from the power source ?




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  • Good point. I automatically assumed remote power when you wrote "power source". If you in fact mean a power strip, just refrain from connecting too many devices to it. Switching them on all at once might trip a circuit breaker. With most managed PDUs, you can define a delay.

  • Hello Brain, im just curious... how you locked those routers standing ( 9 each line ). There are any trick for this?

  • What do you mean lock the routers?

     

    Brian McGahan, 4 x CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP/SC/DC), CCDE #2013::13

    [email protected]

     

    Internetwork Expert, Inc.

    http://www.INE.com

     

    From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of pablocosta
    Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 10:05 PM
    To: Brian McGahan
    Subject: Re: [hardware] Building INE's RSv5 topology with physical routers

     

    Hello Brain, im just curious... how you locked those routers standing ( 9 each line ). There are any trick for this?




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  • jonbovjonbov ✭✭

    I assume he means lock the routers, as shown on the picture on this page.

    http://ieoc.com/forums/p/29291/239969.aspx#239969

     

    I would have mounted the routers on a shelf, and used some strap band to secure (if locking was needed), and go on with the workbook tasks.

  • Hi,

     

    New here and to CCIE. i'm a little confused as to why I need to configure a dot1q tunnel between my breakout switch and my 4 switches.

     

    Will I still be able to isollate the switches and only use the routers, to conserve power.

     

    Any help and explination would be greatly appreciated.

  • In my ideia is to build my own rack v5 with 3560 + 1841. Do you  recommend 1841 for v5 lab? Which IOs can be use for studies?

  • This is my current lab... I want to add some 1941's so I can test on all the features. How many 1941's do I need to be able to moc the INE V5 15.3T's features labs fully?     ie. 4? 6? 20?

    2501

    2511

    2611

    18 x 2811's

    2 x 1841's

    5 3560's IOS 15.0SE

    NM-32A 


     Thanks!

    John

  • Im not clear on the use of the breakout switch between the routers and switch one and what is the config for the breakout switch

  • Hi.

    Were you able to get the config for the breakout switch? i saw your post and wondered if you have solved the problem




  • I found Brian’s answer here on page 30 http://ieoc.com/forums/p/29291/241264.aspx#241264

     

     

    For the routers to switches it doesn't matter how you cable them.  On all ports that go to the routers you simply need:

    interface range fa0/1 - 24

     switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q

     switchport mode trunk

     

     

     

     and here

     

    http://ieoc.com/forums/t/29291.aspx?PageIndex=38

     

     Interface range fa0/1 – 24

    Switchport mode dot1q-tunnel

    Switchport access vlan 1

     

     

     

    From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of kkembi
    Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 4:39 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: [hardware] Building INE's RSv5 topology with physical routers

     

    Hi.

    Were you able to get the config for the breakout switch? i saw your post and wondered if you have solved the problem




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  • Personally I wouldn't buy 1941s if you already have all that hardware. The way we're writing labs we're not containing new features just to certain boxes. 

    What I would personally do is go through the labs with the boxes you have, and anytime you run into a feature problem take a note of it, and then rent rack time later just to test that feature out. 

    Brian McGahan, 4 x CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP/SC/DC), CCDE #2013::13
    [email protected]
     
    Internetwork Expert, Inc.
    http://www.INE.com

    On Oct 2, 2014, at 8:04 PM, "SoZo" <[email protected]> wrote:

    This is my current lab... I want to add some 1941's so I can test on all the features how many 1941's do I need to be able to have moc the advanced features in 15.3T labs fully?

    2501

    2511

    2611

    18 x 2811's

    2 x 1841's

    5 3560's IOS 15.0SE

    NM-32A 


     Thanks!

    John




    INE - The Industry Leader in CCIE Preparation


    http://www.INE.com



  • Thanks Brian... I bought 1 1941 to check out. 

     

    Thats exactly what I'll do I have like 1000 tokens. 

     

    Thank You, 

    John

  • Hello Brian,

    On the new RSv5 topology, R1-R10 is connected to a breakout switch, SW1-SW4 is connected from the breakout switch. How do you tie R1-R10 from the breakout switch to SW1-SW4? I didn't see any configuration for the breakout switch?

    Thanks

     

  • Hello Brian,

    Do I need 10 routers or 20 routers for the INEv5 lab. I believe i only need 10 routers?

     

  • For the first section of the workbook, the “Advanced Technology Labs” you need 10 routers, plus 4 switches if you want to do the LAN switching section.  For all the troubleshooting and full scale labs you’ll need 20 routers + 4 switches.

     

    Brian McGahan, 4 x CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP/SC/DC), CCDE #2013::13

    [email protected]

    Internetwork Expert, Inc.

    http://www.INE.com

     

    From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of TonyG
    Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 1:33 PM
    To: Brian McGahan
    Subject: Re: [hardware] Building INE's RSv5 topology with physical routers

     

    Hello Brian,

    Do I need 10 routers or 20 routers for the INEv5 lab. I believe i only need 10 routers?

     




    INE - The Industry Leader in CCIE Preparation
    http://www.INE.com

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