Vmware workstation or Esxi images?

Hello everyone,

I'm preparing to take the CCIE Voice lab exam and while searching to get material I found that virtual images of the main Servers/application (CUCM, CUC, CUPS, UCCX) are sold in two versions, workstation and Esxi. I've been using workstation to run a CUCM and I wonder whether it would be better to buy the images on workstation or Esxi. Is there any free version of Esxi like there's of workstation (Vmware player)? Which one would be best to choose? Thanks!

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  • Hi

    Did
    You run CUCM version 8.x or 9.x  on a VMware player ?

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    Steen Nielsen 


    On Sep 20, 2013, at 9:27, JoseManuel <[email protected]> wrote:

    Hello everyone,

    I'm preparing to take the CCIE Voice lab exam and while searching to get material I found that virtual images of the main Servers/application (CUCM, CUC, CUPS, UCCX) are sold in two versions, workstation and Esxi. I've been using workstation to run a CUCM and I wonder whether it would be better to buy the images on workstation or Esxi. Is there any free version of Esxi like there's of workstation (Vmware player)? Which one would be best to choose? Thanks!




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  • I'm using version 7.0, the one which I'll be tested in the lab exam, and I want to acquire the other servers (CUC, UCCX, CUPS,etc..) on version 7 too, and my doubt is if I should buy them on workstation or Esxi images

  • Do you have an esxi server and / or do plan to build one?

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    On Sep 20, 2013, at 6:02 PM, JoseManuel <[email protected]> wrote:

    I'm using version 7.0, the one which I'll be tested in the lab exam, and I want to acquire the other servers (CUC, UCCX, CUPS,etc..) on version 7 too, and my doubt is if I should buy them on workstation or Esxi images




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  • No, I don't have one since you have to pay for it, what I don't know is if it exists a free player version like there is in workstation which would allow me to run several Esxi images. I can play workstation images and I wonder if it'd be better to run theses images on Esxi platform and if there's a free player like in workstation.

  • If I had server that supports VMware ESXi I'd preferrably put UC apps there because of the power (more CPU, ram, etc) i get which leads to good performance in labbing.

    Yes VMware ESXi is free. Follow this link hxxp://tinyurl.com/a4tq859

  • I'm planning to build one, that's why I wanted to know which one to use

  • Thanks rejohn, I thought it was that way, using Esxi gives better performance since it runs w/o other OS like Workstation does. I'll check your link out, thanks!

  • What type of server platform are you using for the Esxi

    Mvh

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    On Sep 21, 2013, at 2:33, JoseManuel <[email protected]> wrote:

    I'm planning to build one, that's why I wanted to know which one to use




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  • If it's a ground up, definitely put together a white box esxi server or two.  White box is the term for a box that meets spec but isn't necessarily 'approved' as esxi.  
    You can put together one for less than $500 that will run all the servers
     A couple helpful notes.  
    A few smaller drives is better than 1 big on...better throughput

    CPU - Intel!!!  AMD gives more cores, but cucm / cuc won't install on amd.  And CPU is rarely the bottleneck. 

    Memory, your best performance boost (besides using ssd drives, which would be killer to cost) is to load up on memory.  Memory is usually the big bottleneck because people cheap out here.  Spend the extra $100 on an extra 16gb.  U will thank yourself come study time. 
    Don't bother with extra NICs, never need the bandwidth. 

    GL


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    On Sep 21, 2013, at 5:33 AM, JoseManuel <[email protected]> wrote:

    I'm planning to build one, that's why I wanted to know which one to use




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  • Hello,

    if you want to have the same experience as of CCIE Voice real labs then the ESXi is a must, not the workstation/player. It will also help you to manage all the VMs. As Michael suggested you can have white box for ESXi but my strong suggestion would be to go for HP oldies like DL3XX G3/G4 or IBM X series. You can find them cheap on eBay used. Just add some memory or storage as required.

    why I'm suggesting to go for ESXi over approved boxes is for a peaceful environment of labbing. Let those machine run at their full duty cycle and keep them aside, you think about your lab strategy and concentrate on labbing and labbing.....

    ESXi has its limited capability full free version which is enough for building lab, Forget the VMware workstation of VMware player. 

  • Hi MijanurRahman


    Will the "IBM X3550" server be okay to use

    Steen Nielsen


    From: MijanurRahman <[email protected]>
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 12:17 PM
    Subject: Re: [CCIE Voice General] Vmware workstation or Esxi images?

    Hello,

    if you want to have the same experience as of CCIE Voice real labs then the ESXi is a must, not the workstation/player. It will also help you to manage all the VMs. As Michael suggested you can have white box for ESXi but my strong suggestion would be to go for HP oldies like DL3XX G3/G4 or IBM X series. You can find them cheap on eBay used. Just add some memory or storage as required.

    why I'm suggesting to go for ESXi over approved boxes is for a peaceful environment of labbing. Let those machine run at their full duty cycle and keep them aside, you think about your lab strategy and concentrate on labbing and labbing.....

    ESXi has its limited capability full free version which is enough for building lab, Forget the VMware workstation of VMware player. 



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  • @Steen Nielse:My server in the lab is IBMx3550 M3 - 7944D2M running UC apps, etc.

  • Thanks everyone for the replies,

     

    I have a PC Quadcore with 8Gb DDR3 RAM so I'll try to use the Esxi it and hope it works.

  • try to upgrade the rame to 16 or 32GB. CPU is never an issue for virtualization. Mostly its RAm which is a bottleneck.

  • Just a reminder: you don't want a too new too fast lab ESXi platform. Because the real lab servers are slow. [:D] The difference will be bad enough to destroy your rhythm in the real lab. In my home lab I use a 17" LCD with a crappy Dell keyboard. I felt so much better when I sat in the real lab (19" LCD), LOL.

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