Difficulty of INE's lab and the real exam.

After i failed my attempts,i found that the difficulty between INE or ip expert and real lab are not on the same level.And even the real labs are pretty inconsistent.

Are you guys planning to update book2 or anything else?

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  • Not sure I understand the question.

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    Subject: [CCIE R&S General] Difficulty of INE's lab and the real exam.

    After i failed my attempts,i found that the difficulty between INE or ip expert and real lab are not on the same level.And even the real labs are pretty inconsistent.

    Are you guys planning to update book2 or anything else?



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  •  he said labs in WB2 are easier than real labs and don't fit anymore.. things change, you know

  • Thanks for the clarification.And i found the real lab is really frustrating,they cram many topics into one question,so if you miss any single one,you lose all the points.That is a big difference between INE and the real lab.

  • They sure do but the technologies remain the same ;-)

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    Subject: Re: [CCIE R&S General] RE: Difficulty of INE's lab and the real exam.

     he said labs in WB2 are easier than real labs and don't fit anymore.. things change, you know




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    Thanks for the clarification.And i found the real lab is really frustrating,they cram many topics into one question,so if you miss any single one,you lose all the points.That is a big difference between INE and the real lab.

    I found it to be the other way around: INE's mock labs (circa 2011) seemed to require that each task be configured with one hand behind the back, standing on one leg, closing an eye, in red pencil, without OSPF area stub, only to have to switch hands/legs/eyes/color of pencil/OSPF area for the next question.  The real lab would restrict the OSPF area options and of course the amount of scratch paper, but little more.  IMO, of course.

  • BTW how do you guys config ospf during exam?Interface/ip ospf x area x     OR   router ospf/network ?

  • Hi,

    In general, we configure OSPF in the lab exam with "network" command under the OSPF instance unless they explicitly ask us to use interface specific commands.

    If you are restricted to use network command, you have to configure it with interface specific OSPF command.

    Hope this helps and good luck!

  • Hi,

    In general, we configure OSPF in the lab exam with "network" command under the OSPF instance unless they explicitly ask us to use interface specific commands.

    If you are restricted to use network command, you have to configure it with interface specific OSPF command.

    Hope this helps and good luck!

    I'm not sure there is any preference one way or the other - in the lab you can use whichever method you like, provided there are no restrictions. The grading scripts almost certainly use the output of "sh ip ospf int" rather than "sh run | s router ospf"

  • northlandboy, 

    Although they are not asking to do so now, it doesn't mean they don't restrict it in future. So, its necessary to have understanding on both the options and questions should be read carefully. Bottom line is not to be specific on a particular thing, who knows they may check "show run | sec router ospf" as well [:D]

  • It wouldn't surprise me if they standardized on doing all ospf "network" config on the interface eventually.  I'm not sure which way I like things better, but the current semi-standard "v4 goes under the router config, v6 goes under the interface" setup blows.  At least IMO.  Way too difficult to keep track of what's doing what.  I'd personally prefer something with different address families under one "roof" like it's done with BGP, I think.  Either that or cisco needs to make "sh ipv prot" much more useful - "sh ip prot" is a goldmine of info, the v6 equiv, not so much.

  • The better thing is to know all methods. So no matter the method you expert on all things.

  • Technologies are the same on ine and real labs.  For me the big difference was that on real lab there is nothing preconfigure.  In INE labs you have a lot of stuff pre-configured.  
     
    On my first attemp, i was able to do any ine lab under 6 hours.  On the real lab, i finish 5 minutes before the end and fail.

    On my successful attempt, i started all my ine lab from scratch with nothing pre-configure. 

    I finish my real lab 2 hours before the end and it gave me lot of time to review.



    Le Aug 10, 2013 à 11:33, kalmogo <[email protected]> a écrit :

    The better thing is to know all methods. So no matter the method you expert on all things.




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    but you started all labs without pre-configure ? for example you will start a vol 3 lab 5 , you start just looking the topology and configuring the devices ?

  • Yes.

    Layer 2 and after ip addresses and the 
    n configure all task.  

    Layer 2 and ip adresses take less then 10 minutes.

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    Le Aug 11, 2013 à 15:44, Renato <[email protected]> a écrit :

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    but you started all labs without pre-configure ? for example you will start a vol 3 lab 5 , you start just looking the topology and configuring the devices ?




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  • Hmm,

     

    its a good idea, but you cant confiugre more than l2 and ip address because there are no l2 topology, you know ?

    For example. the lab 5 from vol 2...you dont know what the inicial configurations is, you just can configure the ip address according to topology diagram, but there no l2 topology to configure, and there bgp and eigrp from inicial configuration so you just can configure the l3 address , right ?

    How did you do that beore start the lab ?

  •   Thanks for all the replys!

      Here is something to other CCIE-candidates:The difficulty scale used in INE's mocklab is at least one level lower than real lab probably more.Besides those routing trick,the REAL LAB has less tickets but contains much more requirements in a single ticket.Thats one d**med cleaver way to leverage the difficulty in REAL LAB.And i think thats why many who failed score so low,but actualy they may done 90% right.

  • now it's preconfigured with wrong initial config.. and there are about 5-7 faults that you have to find out

  • As someone who has been to the lab twice, I have to say that INE's meterials are more than enough. The main issue is strategy - without a doubt. I feel like they hold your CCIE# in front of you for those 8 hours but without the use of a good / proven strategy, you just can't reach it.

    As your work throught the Volume 2 labs (and mock labs), keep this in mind.

    The lab is not difficult, its easy to fail (as has been said so many times before).

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