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Latest post 05-06-2010 1:28 AM by egoge. 9 replies.
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  • 02-13-2010 12:46 PM

    8.2 rate limiting

    Hi,

    Just wondering if anyone else decided to use the rate-limit command to do this task and compare solution with me. I did:

    access-list 101 permit icmp any any

    int f0/0

       rate-limit output access-group 101 128000 4000 4000 conform-action transmit exceed-action drop

    • Post Points: 20
  • 02-22-2010 6:10 AM In reply to

    Re: 8.2 rate limiting

    Hi,

    Yes I also decided to use the rate-limit command and my config is identical to yours. It must have been the title of the task "Rate Limiting" that led me to use it instead of a service policy.

    Does anyone know if there is a reason why we should not use rate-limit to complete this task?

     

    • Post Points: 20
  • 04-12-2010 1:37 PM In reply to

    Re: 8.2 rate limiting

    Hi,

        In this particular task you can use rate-limiting as long as you make use of the standard token bucket scheme, where Bc=Be. This the case where clarifications from proctor are valuable if obtained :)

    Regards,

    Cristian Matei, CCIE #23684 Security
    CCSI/CICSP/Cisco TTA
    MCSE/CISM

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  • 05-05-2010 5:23 AM In reply to

    Re: 8.2 rate limiting

    Hi,

    in my opinion the information "Allow for a burst of 1/4t of this rate." does not lead to Bc=Be=4000.

    In the description there is no information as to which Tc to assume. So assuming Tc=1sec leads to Bc=16000. The burst would be achieved by setting Be=16000*1/4=4000. This leads to the folling config:

    police cir 128000 bc 16000 4000

    What is wrong with this?

     

    The core problems with the sentence "Allow for a burst of 1/4t of this rate." seem to be

    1. What is meant by "burst"? Bc or Be?

    2. It gives the burst value in bits/sec instead of bits or bytes.

     

    • Post Points: 20
  • 05-05-2010 6:55 AM In reply to

    Re: 8.2 rate limiting

    Hi,

           In order to configure the policer you need to know two out of the following three values: CIR,Tc,Bc; now if you read the task again, i think it makes sense that 1/4th of this rate is the Bc; and since there is nothing specified about extended burst-Be, you either don't configure it (so use standard token bucket scheme) or set Bc=Be (so use extended token bucket scheme) to actually disable the use of it.

         If you put 1/4*128000=32000bits=4000bytes, which the solution uses.

    Hope it helps,

    egoge:

    Hi,

    in my opinion the information "Allow for a burst of 1/4t of this rate." does not lead to Bc=Be=4000.

    In the description there is no information as to which Tc to assume. So assuming Tc=1sec leads to Bc=16000. The burst would be achieved by setting Be=16000*1/4=4000. This leads to the folling config:

    police cir 128000 bc 16000 4000

    What is wrong with this?

     

    The core problems with the sentence "Allow for a burst of 1/4t of this rate." seem to be

    1. What is meant by "burst"? Bc or Be?

    2. It gives the burst value in bits/sec instead of bits or bytes.

     

     

    Cristian Matei, CCIE #23684 Security
    CCSI/CICSP/Cisco TTA
    MCSE/CISM

    InternetworkExpert Inc.
    http://www.ine.com
    Online Community: http://www.ieoc.com
    CCIE Blog: http://blog.ine.com

     

    • Post Points: 20
  • 05-05-2010 7:18 AM In reply to

    Re: 8.2 rate limiting

    Hm, in your interpretation of the task description you ignore the unit of CIR by using the value as "bits" instead of bist/sec (the correct unit of CIR).

    Will we have to expect such a task description in the real lab?

    • Post Points: 20
  • 05-05-2010 11:35 AM In reply to

    Re: 8.2 rate limiting

    Hi,

       Hmmm...I'm not sure what you mean; The task says 128Kbps of ICMP traffic.

    Regards,

    Cristian Matei, CCIE #23684 Security
    CCSI/CICSP/Cisco TTA
    MCSE/CISM

    InternetworkExpert Inc.
    http://www.ine.com
    Online Community: http://www.ieoc.com
    CCIE Blog: http://blog.ine.com

     

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  • 05-05-2010 12:14 PM In reply to

    Re: 8.2 rate limiting

    Yes, the task says Bc=CIR/4=128000/4bits/s=32000bits/sec.

    However, Bc is supposed to be a value in bits or bytes, and NOT in bits/sec. Therefore, the task description is wrong.

    • Post Points: 20
  • 05-05-2010 2:06 PM In reply to

    Re: 8.2 rate limiting

    Hi,

       The task is not wrong; it gives you the Bc in bits and you need to convert it in bytes; this is actually a common Cisco stuff seen in the lab where they give you values in bits but the router needs it to be entered in bytes.

      As a general rule, don't expect to get in the lab the EXACT thing you need to configure on the router; you may need to do this kind of conversions.

    Hope it helps,

     

    egoge:

    Yes, the task says Bc=CIR/4=128000/4bits/s=32000bits/sec.

    However, Bc is supposed to be a value in bits or bytes, and NOT in bits/sec. Therefore, the task description is wrong.

     

    Cristian Matei, CCIE #23684 Security
    CCSI/CICSP/Cisco TTA
    MCSE/CISM

    InternetworkExpert Inc.
    http://www.ine.com
    Online Community: http://www.ieoc.com
    CCIE Blog: http://blog.ine.com

     

    • Post Points: 20
  • 05-06-2010 1:28 AM In reply to

    Re: 8.2 rate limiting

    Hi,

    sorry, I think my last post was misunderstood. I don't care about converting from "bits" to "bytes". But I cannot convert from "bits/sec" to "bytes".

    cristian.matei:
    The task is not wrong; it gives you the Bc in bits

    No, the task gives the Bc in "bits/sec", which cannot be converted to bytes without assuming some time value (duration of the burst). You seem to assume a burst duration of 1sec. Are we supposed to do that in the real labs?

    Regards,

    • Post Points: 5
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